the transfer part of vfo should be removed to allow auctions to become attractive again.
From a game play point of view, this part has been completely wrong for ages, for several reasons.
1st reason

Frankly, I'm surprised myself, but I'm in favour
It's getting crazy, the normal auctions, the vforum auctions, are overshadowing the real transfer market
A youngster who was worth 30M 7 seasons ago is worth 3M today, it's urgent to raise the bids to their true value

Very good idea, especially the fee applied to general auctions in the event of failure to sell at a set price but not applied to forum sales, which seems like a way of getting round the fee.

Perhaps we should think about including a % charge on the sale price in the game rules for forum sales, to be removed manually by an administrator each time the sale price is not reached.

Kirikou: Très bonne idée, surtout le frais appliquer sur enchère général en cas de non vente à un prix de vente fixé mais non appliquer pour les ventes au forum., ça ressemble a un moyen de contourner le frais.

Il faut peut-être réfléchir à intégrer dans le règlement du jeu pour les ventes forum, un % de frais sur le prix de vente qui sera enlever manuellement par un administrateur, a chaque fois que le prix de vente n'est pas atteint.

personally, I think simply deleting them would be the best solution
it would give the admins 1 crazy job to do this calculation every time
me ce qui me derange c'est le reglement de cette partie transfert, encore hier j'ai vu 1soucis sur les enchères du vfo justement parce de ce reglement la et les 20% DE REMISE en plus
i'll try to give you 1 example
in the rules it is up to the seller on the vfo to accept or not if the pdv is not reached but this makes the sale legal and to this you add 1 table of player prices which is super obsolete
so you make 1 sale legal via this table on the vfo but forbidden on the transferables ...

For me, the two things that pose a problem are the fixed time for the end of the auction without it being pushed back a few minutes on the last auction, and also the discount for the same agreement, which is rather comical

spoupou: Pour moi les deux choses qui posent problème c'est l'heure fixe de fin d'enchère sans qu'elle ne soit repousser de quelques minutes sur la dernière enchère et aussi le rabais pour meme entente qui est assez cocasse

the best sales are made either direct, or on the store and above all on vfo
direct is the game
the store is the game
the vfo is only manual created by admins at the time and it is the only one you can remove to restart 1 minima the auctions of the game
sur 1 topic je sais plus ou j'avais poste ou j'avais fait 1constat sur 250pages du journal, ou j'avais mis le nb de joueurs vendus a plus de 10m et c'était assez pertinent .
but the worst thing is this damn table, which is obsolete and should clearly disappear too
all this together gives you these auctions, fortunately there are the auctions of inactive clubs otherwise we would not even have anything at all, so yes there are not many active players it's true but in this case aymeric must adapt the game to the real number of players and this will necessarily involve removing the sales of the vfo.

spoupou: Pour moi les deux choses qui posent problème c'est l'heure fixe de fin d'enchère sans qu'elle ne soit repousser de quelques minutes sur la dernière enchère et aussi le rabais pour meme entente qui est assez cocasse

And the non-applicable taxes on the vforum are also a worry

I would remove the POS, which makes no sense to me for an auction.

I'm glad to see this topic because I've never understood discounts linked to agreements. It clearly distorts the market. This is a part that should be removed from the vforum.

The question of the discount for agreement members is a bit of a red herring. I sell an average of 1 to 2 players each season via the forum and I think I've never (or almost never) sold to a member of my cartel despite the discount.
There are other ways of selling at an attractive price within an agreement, in particular group messaging.
The main reason I use the forum is because I find it amusing (and sometimes effective) to make a small 'commercial' presentation of the player, particularly players with instructions that are not always easy to spot in traditional auctions.
If transfers via the forum were to be withdrawn, it would be nice if players for sale could have a small pop-up with free text when you click on the player for sale.m0

Once again, the subject has been broached many times, but it's always cool to discuss the same things over again, most likely with the same outcome, it helps pass the time. I love this game, as good old Uncle Pat would say <3

I agree with Lomax.

Putting a player up for sale on Vfo is the same as putting a player on a list.
The list price is the asking price.
Then you get lower bids, which correspond to a pseudo asking price, or almost, depending on how much the seller is prepared to sell his player for.

Except that on Vfo, you can leave your players on display for 1 week or more, without paying any agent fees.

This part of the forum is not in line with the rules applied to the game.

+1

This is literally from the tax-free transfer list.
The seller sets a high price for members who don't belong to the cartel, either you overpay or at the end of the auction if there is no buyer the player will be sold later at "cartel price" to friends.
And if you make a good deal, the other members of the cartel will bid 10 seconds before the end of the auction without adding any time.

The seller has no tax and simply cannot lose. You might as well sell directly via PM and direct bids.

It's not wrong ..
At the time presented as c is going.
This does not go in the direction of the latest changes of A45 on transfers

Socrate: C’est pas faux …
À l’heure actuelle, présenté comme c’est la, cela ne va pas dans le sens des dernières modifications de A45 sur les transferts in game.

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Basically, the game has advantages for the seller and for the buyer too,

But why?

Because at the moment, it's the only transfer module where you can get almost all the information about the player you want to sell. Like his XP in stock, his style bonuses, the number of training sessions he will take before the end of the auction, etc...
This information is not available either on the general auction or on the list...

Urgency it is integrated in the regulation a tax and to remove the option of reduction % for an agreement. Otherwise the reduction option can be used to bypass the tax...

It may make the administrators' work heavier, but it's necessary for justice and equality.

So it's up to the administrators to see whether they can do it or not, then they'll amend the rules accordingly or not.