Good evening everyone,

I've been observing a drop in activity on the transfer market for some time now, and although I don't have a great deal of experience of the game, this trend seems problematic to me.

In Virtuafoot Manager, as in any football management game, the transfer market plays a central role. It allows managers to improve their squad, adjust their sporting strategy and boost the game's economy. However, there is a major problem: excessive speculation, where certain players are bought and then quickly resold with the sole aim of making a profit, rather than developing the team.

This trend detracts from the gaming experience by favouring a purely financial approach to the detriment of real sports management. To remedy this, it would be appropriate to introduce a minimum holding period after the purchase of a player, prohibiting his resale before a certain time (several days in real time).

1. Limiting speculation to preserve a balanced transfer market

The main problem with the current market lies in the possibility of buying a player and selling him immediately, or even a few days later, sometimes at a greatly inflated price. This encourages :

• Artificial price inflation: the same players change clubs several times in a short space of time, increasing their value without any statistical justification.
• An imbalance between managers: the most experienced exploit these opportunities to accumulate profits, while new players struggle to find players at reasonable prices.
• A decline in sporting investment: some clubs no longer buy players to develop them, but only to sell them on.

Introducing a minimum holding period would force managers to think about their purchases and invest in their players' development, rather than seeing them as mere financial assets.

2. Encouraging more realistic and strategic management of the workforce

In real football, clubs do not recruit players to sell them immediately after a few weeks. They invest in their development, their integration into the team and their role in the team.

By imposing a minimum period before resale, Aymeric would encourage :

• Managers to plan their recruitment based on their sporting project rather than simply on profit opportunities.
• A more considered rotation of players, where each purchase is part of a medium or long-term vision.
• A more dynamic but also more stable market, where players move around less frequently and prices remain more consistent.

Some might object that this limits managers' freedom, but in reality it reinforces the strategic dimension: buying a player should be a commitment, not just a speculative gamble.

3. Finding a way to revitalise the transfer market

While the introduction of a minimum holding period limits speculation, it is also crucial to stimulate activity in the market, to prevent it from becoming too stagnant. A number of complementary solutions could be considered:

• Make auctions more attractive: add auction bonuses to encourage managers to actively monitor transactions.
• Highlight available players: improve the visibility of players on sale via a more intuitive interface or a recommendation system based on clubs' needs.
• Encourage direct transfers between clubs: tax transaction fees for abusive purchases and resales to encourage strategic exchanges.
• Integrate a "loyalty bonus" mechanism: reward managers who keep a player over a long period with bonuses (e.g. faster progression, financial bonus).

I'm aware that this proposal could give rise to debate, and that's precisely why I'm putting it forward: I want to open the discussion with more experienced managers to see how this idea could be adapted or improved. The aim is not to block transfers, but to find solutions to revitalise the market and put the emphasis back on more strategic management of the workforce. What are your thoughts on this?

Good evening. Indeed, this is interesting. I'm in favour of a system where when you buy a player, the "place on transfer list" and "auction" tabs are only accessible to 56 players after the player has been bought.

Good evening and thanks for your feedback! 😊

The idea of blocking access to resale options for a certain period of time after the purchase of a player is indeed an interesting solution to limit speculation and encourage more thoughtful management of the workforce.

However, 56 days may seem a little long, especially for managers who would like to quickly adjust their squad after a poorly calibrated purchase. Perhaps a shorter but still significant period (e.g. between 20 and 30 days) would be a good compromise between curbing excessive resale and keeping an active market.

Exoda: Merci pour ton retour, c'est très gentil de ta part ! 😊

L’idée de bloquer l’accès aux options de revente pendant un certain temps après l’achat d’un joueur est effectivement une solution intéressante pour limiter la spéculation et encourager une gestion plus réfléchie des effectifs.

Toutefois, 56 jours peut sembler un peu long, surtout pour les managers qui souhaiteraient ajuster rapidement leur effectif après un achat mal calibré. Peut-être qu’une durée plus courte ma

That's true. So let's say 28 days, half a season

Ah the limitation... if you had a bit of perspective on the game you'd understand that it doesn't add anything. In fact, the opposite is true. Prices go up when the mdj stops playing with progression variables.
Buying and selling is already largely restricted, so there's no point.
The only reason for the state of the market is the changes made over the last year, which have had an impact on several generations of players, generating a fair amount of uncertainty.

In short, patience and there are far more important things to worry about today 😆

Thanks for your feedback and your experience, it's really interesting!

You've highlighted a key point. However, buying at low prices on auctions or transfer lists, followed by a more expensive resale, is still a very common mechanism, despite the limitations already in place. This system often benefits the most experienced managers, who know how to spot bargains and maximise their profits, while others struggle to find players at reasonable prices.

The real debate, then, is whether this system is natural and beneficial to the market, or whether it is detrimental to its equilibrium On the one hand, you could say that this is normal economic logic, where the most experienced players exploit opportunities. On the other hand, if this phenomenon becomes too dominant, it can slow down the flow of exchanges and prevent certain managers from accessing players at coherent prices.

So, rather than imposing strict restrictions, perhaps we need to find alternatives to prevent certain practices from unbalancing the market, while retaining some freedom. Better supervision of bids, making average player prices more visible, or adjusting certain parameters to limit abusive discrepancies could be one way forward.

Teddy: Ah la limitation... si tu avais un peu de recule sur le jeu tu comprendrais qu'elle n apporte rien. C'est l'inverse même. Les prix montent quand le mdj arête de jouer avec les variables de progression.
L'achat revente est déjà largement bridé donc aucun intérêt.
La seule raison de l'état du marché reste les modifications depuis 1 an qui ont impacté plusieurs générations de joueur ce qui génère pas mal d incertitude.

Bref patience et il y a des trucs bien plus importants aujourd'h

OK, but it doesn't say what you're proposing, because he made this post to propose improvements to the transfer market.

Guyaloboue: Ok mais ça ne dit pas ce que, tu proposes car il a fait ce post pour des propositions d améliorations du marché des transferts.

Le temps....

It's always the same principle: I don't manage the transfer market well, so instead of analysing it better like some people do, I'm going to limit them so they can't rip me off any more.
That's your reflex all too often. How can you change the game to suit you? Aymeric has always made limitations, he doesn't need an idea for that. And once again, buying and reselling is a mess, so move on to a more interesting subject lol

I confess I don't really understand your reaction. 🤔 My aim is not to impose anything, but simply to offer food for thought and open up a debate. I don't claim to have the perfect solution, and I'm totally open to criticism and counter-arguments.

I've started this discussion because I love the game, and like any good manager, I'm trying to understand what works and what could be improved. Yes, maybe buy-sell is already weakened, and maybe limiting it further isn't the answer. But if that's the case, what could really kick-start the market? It's not by dismissing ideas out of hand that we make progress, but by working together to find ways forward that could benefit everyone.

I'm not saying: "I'm not managing the market well, so I want everyone to be restricted", but rather: "I've noticed a drop in activity, I'm wondering why, and I'm trying to see what could be tested to improve the situation". After that, if the idea of regulation is of no interest, I'm prepared to discuss it, but in that case, what do you think are the real causes of the problem and the best solutions?

In short, I'm putting forward ideas, not obligations, and if they're not relevant, then let's help each other find better solutions rather than shutting down the debate 😉

Exoda: Je t’avoue que je ne comprends pas trop ta réaction. 🤔 Mon but n’est pas d’imposer quoi que ce soit, mais simplement de proposer une réflexion et d’ouvrir un débat. Je ne prétends pas avoir la solution parfaite, et je suis totalement ouvert aux critiques et aux contre-arguments.

Si j’ai lancé cette discussion, c’est parce que j’adore le jeu, et comme tout bon manager, j’essaie de comprendre ce qui fonctionne et ce qui pourrait être amélioré. Oui, peut-être que l’ac

Sorry for the tone of my reply.
But today the market is low because of the changes put in place by Aymeric. Prices will go up again in 3 or 4 seasons, as we've already seen after periods of changes in progressions.
As a general rule, the market doesn't appreciate instability very much

Teddy: Tjr dans le principe du : je gère mal le marché des transferts donc aulieu de mieux l analyser comme certains alors je vais les limiter comme ça ils vont plus pouvoir m arnaquer.
C'est trop souvent votre réflexe. Comment modifier le jeu au gré de vos envies. Aymeric à tjr fait des limitations, il a pas besoin d idée pour cela. Et encore une fois l achat revente et déglingué donc passez à un sujet plus intéressant lol

That's not the point. If you think everything's fine, you're just saying there's nothing to improve. The guy took his time to come up with something. And besides, today the transfer market is in jeopardy, even for buying and selling. If a town has 10 shops selling bikes and then 100, the price of bikes will obviously fall. So some shops will be forced to close until either demand for bikes explodes, or the remaining shops pick up the customers of the shops that have closed.

Teddy: Désolé pour le ton de ma réponse.
Mais aujourd'hui le marché est bas à cause des changements mis en place par Aymeric. Les prix vont remonter d ici 3 ou 4 saisons, ce sont des phénomènes déjà relevé après des périodes de modifications des progressions.
En règle générale le marché apprécié peu l'instabilité

There's no harm done, I assure you

Guyaloboue: Le sujet n est pas là. Si tu pense que tous va bien, tu dis juste qu il n'y a rien à améliorer. Le gars , il a pris son temps pour proposer quelque chose. Et d'ailleurs aujourd'hui le marché du transfert est en péril, même pour faire de l achats vente. Si dans une ville de 10 commerces qui vendent des vélos, on se retrouve à 100 commerces, bien évidemment le prix des vélos baissent. Donc certains seront obligés de mettre la clé sous la porte jusqu'à ce que, soit la demande de v

In a market, supply has to match demand. It's not just a question of supply. Business is down at the moment. Less activity = less need. If you limit supply, you're going to keep lowering prices

Teddy: Dans un marché, l'offre doit coller à la demande. Ce n est pas simplement une histoire d offre. L'activité est en baisse en ce moment. Moins d'activités = moins de besoin. Si tu limite l'offre, tu va continuer à descendre les tarifs

I agree, but to buy and sell, you need a stock of low-cost, quality players. But that also goes with the budget. I can't always buy players from someone who's buying and selling because they'll always want to raise the price, so I have to look at new accounts or win at auctions for free players, and to do that you have to be online almost all the time to keep an eye out for the slightest opportunity. If I miss this opportunity, I have to negotiate the price in order to make a profit too. It's the same thing as hunting: if everyone hunts all the game, there will be nothing left to hunt, which is why hunting seasons have been introduced.

Guyaloboue: Je suis d accord, mais pour faire de l achats vente, il faut un stock de joueurs à bas prix et de qualité. Mais ça va aussi avec le budget. Je ne peux pas toujours acheter des joueurs chez quelqu'un qui fait de l achats vente car il aura toujours envie de monter son prix, donc il faut que je me tourne vers les nouveaux comptes ou que je gagne aux enchères aux joueurs libres et pour ça il faut être connecté quasiment en permanence afin de scruter la moindre opportunité. Si je rate cett

Can't you see the error of your ways? Having to block people who manage the market better than you? But what will that change? There will always be smarter people.
All you have to do is gain experience of the market and make the right offers.

I understand what you mean, but that's why faire play was introduced.

Guyaloboue: Je te comprends, mais c est pour cela que le faire play fut instaurer.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

The subject and the proposals are very interesting and raise some important points. Teddy's reaction is right, the transfer market and prices are currently low following the major change in training, totally favouring the current generation of 26/28-30 year olds, the target of the biggest wealthy clubs before this page of the golden generation is turned.

Nevertheless, this answer and this mention are totally off-topic compared to where Exoda probably wanted to take the discussion: the aim of buy-sell is to buy cheaply, sell straight away and make a small margin (including the penalty fees linked to rapid resale, affinity, etc.), often at the expense of new players (not particularly motivating for them) or players returning to the game and without any real knowledge of the market (having experienced this 1.5 years ago). Moreover, this practice is not only used by experienced players, but also by 'newcomers'. The last example I saw was a Vfo auction with players bought less than 15 days before at 8.9 and 13.2M, to be resold at 20M PDV, but above all a history of buying and selling at low prices that is quite astonishing. Quite frankly, I personally blacklist any manager/club using this practice for a future purchase or sale, as I do not endorse it. Certain proposals, such as the introduction of a minimum contract period (except for 'redundancy' by sending to the free agents to avoid a player being blocked at a club for X number of days) are worth studying, especially if they help to reduce the negative buy-sell aimed at newcomers to the game. Unless I'm mistaken, this is the subject he probably wanted to talk about, which has strayed from the original topic.

At the very least, I see a big problem with the introduction of a minimum contract for young players in the CDF, who start out with a 0-day contract and could end up with their training club (unless this constraint is lifted if the player belongs to the training club).

brewen: Le sujet et les propositions sont très intéressantes et soulèvent certains points importants. La réaction de Teddy est juste, le marché des transferts et les prix sont actuellement bas suite au changement majeur sur la formation, favorisant totalement la génération des 26/28-30ans actuels, la cible des plus gros clubs fortunés avant que cette page de la génération d'or ne se tourne.

Néanmoins, cette réponse et cette mention est un hors-sujet total par rapport à où Exoda voulait p

Virtuafoot has trained thousands of managers in the art of negotiation. At first, it's easy to be fooled by the price of certain players, as there are so many pitfalls.

With experience, you quickly learn to spot the good deals and the bad ones. This is a true reflection of reality, where unscrupulous agents and clumsy sports directors do exist.

Once again, negotiation is an essential skill in the game. No one is forced to buy or sell, and each manager is the sole master of his decisions. In fact, the MDJ is already making it easier for new accounts to get into the game, but learning from your mistakes is still essential.

You say:
With experience, you learn to spot good deals and bad deals quickly. That's a true reflection of reality, where unscrupulous agents and clumsy sports directors do exist.

In theory, I agree 100%, but in practice on this game, the supposed spotting isn't always effective, simply because of the many changes in settings that are introduced without warning and which mean that a supposedly good deal can turn out overnight to be a bad deal and vice versa.

If you're a daredevil, a good deal is to buy a generation of players of the same age at a time when the game settings are unfavourable to the profile of your players, and therefore cheap, and who suddenly become a good option.
On the other hand, it can turn out to be a ruinous affair.
And that's not a question of experience, or even intuition.

أعتقد أنه يجب وضع رسم بياني كما في التطور توضح السعر الأدنى والأقصى للاعب واحتمالية زيادة السعر أو نقصانه وغير مسموح بالبيع أعلى أو أقل من ذلك إلا في حالة السوق وبالتأكيد سيتم زيادة السعر أو تقليله بناءًا على قواعد معينة وبالتالي سيفكر البائع أو المشتري قبل عملية البيع والشراء وأيضاً سيجعل النادي يبيع لاعب خوفاً من الخسائر أو يحتفظ به ليزيد من مكسبه وهذا لتنشيط المزاد
I think that a chart should be placed as in the development that shows the minimum and maximum price for the player and the possibility of the price increasing or decreasing and it is not allowed to sell above or below that except in the case of the market and certainly the price will be increased or decreased based on certain rules and thus the seller or buyer will think before the buying and selling process and also it will make the club sell the player for fear of losses or keep him to increase his profit and this is to activate the auction

So personally, I don't think the market should be restricted any further than it is today:
-high agent fees for players who have been at the club for 56 days or less
-table showing the maximum value of a player

When you look at the 'specialists' in buying and selling, you get the impression that they're making a fortune. But I'm not convinced that the time spent is all that beneficial for them (not least because of those infamous agent fees). So a large part of the seller's profit goes on taxes. If he really wants to make a profit (with a lower final price for the buyer), the seller should already keep this player for 56 days.

And for good deals, there's still the option, available to everyone, of going through the auctions every day. It's up to you to spend that time... Or not :)

seblelionnais: Alors personnellement, je ne pense pas que le marché doit encore être bridé par rapport a ce qu'il est aujourd'hui :
-frais d'agents importants pour les joueurs présents au club depuis -56j
-tableau indiquant la valeur max d'un joueur

Quand on regarde les "spécialistes" de l'achat revente, on a l'impression qu'ils s'en mettent plein les pôches. Mais je ne suis pas persuadé que le temps passé soit si bénéfique pour eux (entre autres, avec ces fameux frais d'agents). Une grande partie d

But your idea is to make the new guy take longer to develop because of the money, like if he buys players with a 40 rating at a decent price and wants to buy stronger players, he won't be able to because the number of players in his squad will be full, and if he finds a great deal, he won't be able to accept it because selling the player before the period he assumed will make him back out because he's afraid of losing and he's in the most desperate situation for all the money

I'm one of the game's biggest buyers and sellers. On paper I agree with you, there could be a limit (even if it's just one more, it's starting to happen) but if you go there, you could say the same thing about young players who are bought by the biggest clubs to be loaned out directly (because they don't have the time to train them) and so that breaks up the average clubs who want to train the rich ones. You could add a lot of restrictions on the game but I think there are enough restrictions.

Nowadays, buying and selling is often a risky gamble because there are taxes, etc. Unless you get a good deal, otherwise there's a risk of losing money. Do clubs like me hinder sales? No, they don't. Because I'm not going to lie to you, a player who sells for 5m on the auctions has to sell for at least 5.7m to make any money, if you want a bit of profit you have to sell for around 7m with the risk that if you don't sell him in 14 days, you're going to pay 300-400k in tax. So it's risky, but above all a player bought for 5m and visible to all the clubs in the game, isn't that what he's worth in the end? If no one bids, it's because everyone thinks it won't cost more. So buying 5m is still a gamble. That's why the buyer-sellers are just looking to buy cheaply and hope that a player is in urgent need of a player and buys him on the transfer list. That's all there is to it. And everything is negotiated on VF

So no, buyers-sellers are not the evil of transfers today. They can be annoying because they buy a lot, but they don't break the market. The market is linked to Aymeric's direction.
1 year ago, there was an average of 3-4 pages at auction. There are many more sales today than 1 year ago, nobody is responsible for that, apart from Aymeric

I think that restricting one of the few ways for new players to progress on their own outside of the agreement, and also a hobby for others, wouldn't be very beneficial
The tax + list fees are already there to force you to think... then even for the buyer if he's planning to buy a recently transferred player, the game warns you in order to suggest negotiation..

I am against

hello
je suis contre car 1bride a deja ete mise a la sortie des cdf et c'est ce qui a flingue le marché des transferts deja du moins en partie
1 joueur qui est garde au cdf jusqu'ax son âge sortira avec ng egale a potentiel et c'est deja 1 bride en soi pour la suite
restricting resale purchases with 1 deadline has also been done on players in the store with a 100% capital gains tax
BRIDGING players on top of that would only cause the rest of the auction market to collapse for what little is left of it, where 70% OF transfers are generated by the game and inactive clubs
on the other hand we should do the reverse to relaunch the market

We would like to remind any beginners reading this that for at least the last 2 years, no player has come out of a cdf with a score equal to his potential.

Demi-cerveau: Nous tenons à rappeler aux débutants qui liraient ces propos que depuis au moins 2 ans, plus aucun joueur ne sort d'un cdf avec une note égale à son potentiel.

I think what he means is that players no longer have the possibility of exceeding (or at least greatly exceeding) the potential in ng with the new generations.

I feel they should add more ways for clubs to make money. The club shop and ticket should be made more sophisticated so as to allow massive profits and the possibility of massive losses also. The rewards for winning the league among others should also be improved and made variable and should depend on the TV revenue generated by clubs who played in that league for that season. This way the clubs have to focus on having a good squad so that they can make more money. Right now there’s still a lot of work to be done and I pray God will help us .

Mide: I feel they should add more ways for clubs to make money. The club shop and ticket should be made more sophisticated so as to allow massive profits and the possibility of massive losses also. The rewards for winning the league among others should also be improved and made variable and should depend on the TV revenue generated by clubs who played in that league for that season. This way the clubs have to focus on having a good squad so that they can make more money. Right now there’s still a lo

Very true about everything to the point of the end-of-season awards need to be reviewed.

Mide: I feel they should add more ways for clubs to make money. The club shop and ticket should be made more sophisticated so as to allow massive profits and the possibility of massive losses also. The rewards for winning the league among others should also be improved and made variable and should depend on the TV revenue generated by clubs who played in that league for that season. This way the clubs have to focus on having a good squad so that they can make more money. Right now there’s still a lo

Why not! The idea of improving the ways in which clubs generate revenue, particularly through ticketing and the shop, is an excellent one. More sophisticated management would allow clubs to optimise their profits while taking the risk of financial losses in the event of poor decisions. This would reinforce the importance of economic management and encourage clubs to be more strategic in their investments.

The addition of a system where rewards vary according to the television revenue generated by the clubs over the course of the season would also be an interesting development. This would encourage each club to maximise its appeal and offer a great game to attract more spectators and sponsors. As a result, teams would have to focus more on the quality of their squad, making the competition more intense and recruitment choices more crucial.

The idea of streamlining and improving the transfer market to avoid abuse is also relevant. A more realistic transfer system, with price variations based on supply and demand, more in-depth negotiations and finer management of contracts, could balance the market. At the same time, allowing clubs to benefit from well-considered profits from player sales while limiting abusive practices would guarantee a more immersive and strategic experience.

Other solutions could go in this direction. For example, clubs could negotiate dynamic sponsorship contracts, where income varies according to the club's performance and media exposure. In addition, a system of infrastructure modernisation could be put in place, making it possible to increase revenues in the long term while imposing strategic investments.

Exoda: Pourquoi pas ! L’idée d’améliorer les moyens pour les clubs de générer des revenus, notamment via la billetterie et la boutique, est une excellente piste. Une gestion plus sophistiquée permettrait aux clubs d’optimiser leurs profits tout en prenant le risque de pertes financières en cas de mauvaises décisions. Cela renforcerait l’importance de la gestion économique et pousserait les clubs à être plus stratégiques dans leurs investissements.

L’ajout d’un système où les

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to focus more on improving the earnings of the sponsors and the championship bonus.
The stadium already makes money from the 20,000 seats. For example, I take 100k more or less from each match and during the week, the ticket sales alone are enough to pay my weekly wages.

Current revenues are sufficient for a club that manages well and doesn't do just anything.

The income is more than enough, but you still need to know how to manage a club.

Demi-cerveau: Les revenus actuels sont suffisants pour un club qui gère bien et qui ne fait pas n'importe quoi.

it's the hospital that doesn't give a damn about charity for someone who's done nothing else all these years to make serious money from buying and selling and even more by helping out his friends from the cartel as much as possible (I've had enough of your transfers, ....)
you must be in the top 5 of buy and sell backs or not far off
you're talking about management:
explain to me why the clubs sold the stadium tickets in this case?
explique moi 1 peux pk la chaine tv n'est plus rentable ( si sur 10ans peut être )
it's not complicated to check each one, you just need to see the money coming in for each one and to see the Sunday finances to understand that there's 1soucis
how many clubs have 1 billion in the bank at the moment?
les enchères et le journal des transferts ou tu vois des joueurs que tu vas payé 20.25m en moyenne pour 1 niv 2.3 sur le store se vendrent à moins de 5m aux enchères
je sais que tu es le roi des lois poissons et des donneurs de lecons donc je me attends juste a voir raplliquer zeus et consort comme d'ab mais au final vous ne fera pas avancer la chose et c'est 1fait
bon wk demi

But where did you see that I was questioning buy-sell? I was responding to those who want sources of income other than those that currently exist: the current game, with its current parameters, allows a guy who plays regularly and doesn't mess around to generate enough money to progress in the game.

After that, if you manage like a hare, stacking up players who are close to retirement and training young players like a potato, it's complicated.

redbull77: c est quand meme l hopital qui se fout de la charitee pour quelqu un qui a fait que ca pendant toutes ses annees pour se faire du fric serieux avec l achat revente et meme plus encore en aidant 1 max ses potes d ententes , ( j en ai assez signale de tes transferts hein ....)
tu dois etre dans le top 5 des achats reventes ou pas loin
puisque tu parles de gestion :
explique moi donc pk les clubs ont vendu dans ce cas la les places de stade?
explique moi 1 peux pk la chaine tv n est plus rentable

You're talking a lot of nonsense,
I'd advise you to read the vf manual, it might give you some tips and additional information that you might not have got.

Demi-cerveau: Mais où tu as vu que je remettais en cause l'achat revente ? Je répondais à ceux qui veulent d'autres sources de revenus que celles qui existent actuellement, et qui nous rédigent un superbe argumentaire à grand coup de chat GPT : le jeu actuel, avec ses paramètres actuels, permet à un mec qui joue régulièrement et qui fait pas n'importe quoi de générer assez d'argent pour avancer dans le jeu.

Après si on gère comme une brêle, qu'on empile les joueurs à 2 doigts de la retraite,

you could have answered me at least why the big levels have lowered their stadium tickets?
Talk about the TV channel and other legal ways of making money since it's 1 management game as you say.
the small clubs without the store are dying, it's not complicated, I've done enough to know that it's just not possible, you don't win anything at home, you even win more away from home
it's 1 fact for the stadium seats, and I'll give you the reason because the finances were simply higher than if you had 1 stadium with 100 seats like the big levels have, they've almost all dropped between 50 and 60k to be profitable, so no it's no longer possible
that's 1 fact i'm giving you, not 1 assumption
tu as réussis a te te faire votre club avec de l'achat resvente toi et tu en avez fait 1 paquet, correct ou douteux je m'en cogne maintenant mais c'est plus possible avec les transferts actuellement donc je me repete ne parle pas de gestion, sans le store c'est plus possible
le mec qui est niv1 va poser du pognon pour être bien et encore ap c'est 80etoiles ( 10balles ) pour 8pauvres millions tu vas pas loin et quand ce club passe niv 2 ben il est baise clairement et c'est à ce moment la que les clubs ils stoppent soit pour return to level 1, which is happening more and more, or they leave altogether because they have no more money coming in and the players they will have paid for on the 10m store they can't even amortize on the auction because the auctions are so burnt out
you've managed to pull your weight, you or others, but now it's no longer working, even you must be noticing
you're going to tell me the infrastructure, ha yes the infrastructure which is exponential with the level of the club it's sure that 1nouv it will succeed ...
Quand je parle de nouv , je peux pârler d'anciens aussi qui ne comprennent plus rien ils se font défoncer par 1mdm qui bug totalement ( la maj que a45 a rectifie quand tu joues uniquement sur 1cote et ou les points passent sur l'axe et qui foutent la merde avec 1faille enorme ou le mdm ne cape que 1 fois
les anciens qui n'arrivent plus à se faire du fric , quand ils sortir 1 pauvre jeune qui se vend a peine 10.15m ca finance même pas la saison ...
it's a shame that the silent majority don't come and express themselves on vfo, you'd be surprised at the disgust
it has nothing to do with the managers but with a45 who have made their restrictions everywhere

It has more to do with their investment in the game. You can't make progress by spending 5 minutes a day managing your club. It wasn't even possible when I started out.

As it happens, I work with small clubs that are making progress and that don't use the blind. So I have quite precise ideas of what is possible and what isn't today. Compared to when I started, I think it's actually harder and takes longer to build a team that's on a par with the best teams in the game.

On the other hand, if tomorrow I started the game with a level 1 account, I'm sure that in 8 months' time, without going through the store, I'd have a team with an average of more than 80 ng and an average age of 24, while having built up my infrastructure to the maximum that my level would allow. But it would take time, that's for sure.

Zeus: Tu dis beaucoup de bêtises ,
Je te conseilles de lire le manuel de vf, ça pourra t'apporter des astuces et compléments que tu n'as pas du acquérir.

i wrote this manual zeus when you were still pt niv with 1 other club and 1 other speudo ....
le manuel il n'est plus à jour depuis belle lurette ni la maison de l'apprenti , de memoire au début de galy il a été pondu et ou la refonte a été faite et n'ai plus à jour depuis des lustres
but to get back to the subject of profitability, it hasn't been there for 1 moment and that's 1 fact
you just have to look at what's coming in each week and above all what's going out to understand the bleme
when 100k tickets for 1 stadium are no longer profitable for 1 member there's 1 big problem (that's why clubs have sold their tickets to bring it down to 50.55k)
you're going to talk to me about mentoring, which is working very well at the moment, I admit ....
and I'm going to go even further in what I say, even if it means getting caught out by some cartels, but I'm not that close.
pk the cartels are arranging it so that the dough doesn't leave the cartel any more, that's also 1 fact and I'm not going to name them but a lot of them are doing it now and they're right because it's unplayable otherwise
now we can talk for hours, it won't change a thing, maybe when Aymeric sees that the cartels are doing this he'll do away with all of them because at the start he never wanted them and it took some idiots to force his hand (I was one of those idiots too)
je sais pas ce que a45 cherche a faire mais le plus simple dans ce qu'il propose actuellement c'est de faire 1reset complet où tout le monde serrait de nouv niv1 car sinon plus personne ne comprend plus

Demi-cerveau: Ça a surtout à voir avec leur investissement dans le jeu. Progresser en passant 5 min par jour sur la gestion de son club, ce n'est pas possible. Ce n'était déjà pas possible à l'époque où j'ai débuté.

Il se trouve que j'accompagne des clubs de petit niveau, en progression, qui ne passent pas par le store. Donc j'ai des idées assez précises de ce qui est possible et de ce qui ne l'est plus aujourd'hui. Par rapport à l'époque où j'ai débuté, je pense que c'est effectivement plu

i totally agree with you but once you've got your team, what are you going to do with it after 8 months?
mais ap tu serras aller niv 5.6 env , sans tune , sans joueurs quand les tiens serront vieux et que tu vas en tirer 4.5m piece tu ferras quoi , c'est la question que je te pose car tu n'aurras tjj'aurai pas vos infras au tacquet et l'aide du store marchera plus ...
so we're back to square one ....
buying and selling is dead, so how can you make money?

250 PAGES OF TRANSFERS, I've stopped there's no point in going any further anyway, everyone has eyes to see it
242 players sold for more than 10m
i didn't see any players sold for more than 100m, the most was 85 I think
1 average between 10 and 20m a piece
a few players over 30m but very few
the players you buy at the store will never be amortised as an example because not only will you be paying irl money and at least 20m vf
c'est 1 autre fait

To think it took me at least 2 (or even 3) years to build my level 10 CDF!

Brutus: Dire que j'ai mis au moins 2 (voire 3) ans à monter mon CDF niv10 !

hi brutus
oui mais en 2011 tout fonctionnait plus ou moins sur les transferts, les aides par les ententes ou tu n'était pas bride et tu aviez juste à s'occuper de ton club sans te casser la tete, a jouer quoi chose chose que tu peux plus faire actuellement
you weren't tied down niv3 for your tv channel for example
not restricted to 20m of aid from the agreement
and examples are a dime a dozen you know that too

Ola Red,

I've never actually helped out with a deal!
Just buying/training/reselling...
After all, it wasn't the same era, I admit..

Brutus: Ola Red,

Jamais d'aide entente à proprement parlé !
Juste de l'achat / formation / revente...
Après ce n'était pas la même époque, j'avoue ;)

there you have it, you've explained it all, not at the same time, and now it's not working at all, buying
you're going to pay a lot for a youngster, training him has become basic because everything is automated so you can no longer make a difference on training and on resale I've shown more than 250 pages of the newspaper for the number of players sold for more than 10m

Training... amha... becomes the same for all players leaving the CDF (at 17, 18 or 22 years old)...
Everything is smoothed out... many players will be identical... but the styles created by A45 change everything because you can modify the training sessions according to the style you choose.

But if you stick to the basics... all the players will be "identical"... but that's just my opinion... until the next change ^^

He wanted it that way and I think finding the right tactics will be complicated!

Finally, I've understood the difficulty of this game. I'm sure you won't like it, but I'll be honest because that's who I am. VF represents today's society: on the one hand, we have members who are said to be supportive, understanding and open to debate, and on the other, the reticent, i.e. members who consider themselves to be at the top of the hierarchy and think that their word is more important than that of other players. People who prefer to focus on their personal interests, in this case their money, and not reconsider their position in order to promote possible improvement. Once again, the topic I opened was based on suggestions, not obligations. What's more, I was banking on good faith and respect, but in return I'm entitled to receive a value judgement on my person and my work and nobody says anything.